Adam did not "separate" from Eve, but rather clung to her Gen. Men need to be relational since God said it was not good for Adam to be alone Gen. Sumner sees the church festering with an underlying worldly competition between Christian men and women. She also notes that we all agree that men and women are equal and distinct but differ on what aspect to highlight: equality or distinctiveness.
At times, Sumner seems to reduce the egalitarian perspective. In this sense the book builds "compromise" rather than "consensus. However, in a footnote she also agrees that head means "source" in Eph.
Sumner does not believe the Bible teaches "mutual submission" in marriage, yet the husband and wife should "lift each other up" p. Sumner describes egalitarians as biblical feminists who grant feminist thought more authority than Scripture p. However, to say CBE leaders think "classical feminist thought" is more authoritative than Scripture would be in direct contradiction to CBE's mission statement and the body of egalitarian scholarship. Sumner concludes that goddess worship in Ephesus was relevant to Paul's prohibition of women yet nowhere cites agreement with Cathie Kroeger's exhaustive study in her book I Suffer Not a Woman.
Thus, I see Sumner as agreeing with the overall mission of CBE, even though she may not agree with the phrase "mutual submission. Sumner says metaphors are not meant to be defined; they are mysteries p. However, a metaphor is a figurative analogy. Any analogy should be analyzed and "defined. For example, even though she is careful to conclude that God is not masculine, she states that the church has to be feminine to Christ's masculinity.
But the imagery for the church varies. For instance, in Ephesians the church is imaged as a mature man. The problem stems from Sumner deducing that if a wife is a "body" to a "head" of the husband, then "body" is always a feminine image pp. But the latter does not necessarily follow since metaphors and similes are used differently in different contexts.
Throughout the book, Sumner claims that the only right people have is to become "God's child. However, I believe we humans do have God—given rights beyond Sumner's definition. But our human rights work together with God's grace. For example, justice is a right. Abel's blood cried out to God from the ground Gen.
Workers have the right to be paid 1 Tim. Sumner has faith that with time those in authority will embrace the gifts of all individuals, regardless of gender. I agree with her view that the process of change can take time. However just as God vindicates, we humans also can pray for boldness to act Acts Moreover, not all authoritative leaders are open to God's will. Sin can be conducted on individual and corporate levels.
Leaders may be more interested in power and control than truth.
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Sumner aptly reminds us to try to keep the unity of the church when we seek change. But, she neglects to recognize that after a while, stoical waiting may have to end.
Despite some limitations, Men and Women in the Church is a worthwhile book to read. Sumner has an important goal to achieve: consensus on Christian leadership. What I found most helpful were her insightfully fresh readings of biblical texts and relational dilemmas. CBE advances the gospel by equipping Christians to use their God-given talents in leadership and service regardless of gender, ethnicity, or class.
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Grenz and his writing partner are egalitarian, but they admit that their position is at times week. Another point to be made is a number of the arguments they make for the egalitarian stance sound a lot like the arguments my complimentarian friends would make. Overall a well done work that is informative and p This book handles a hot button topic with care to the emotions that can run hot. Overall a well done work that is informative and presents the argument well.
Sep 22, Ken Garrett rated it liked it. A worthy exploration of the issue of gender distinction in the pastorate, from a egalitarian perspective. While I've been told this work is now a bit dated, it seems to fairly present both sides of the debate.get link
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Seems to me there is a lot of freedom in this issue for each local church congregation to study the Scriptures, listen to the Spirit, and then simply decide what it believes, and go from there Dec 09, Adam Ross rated it really liked it Shelves: theology , church-history , family-and-marriage. A solid introduction to the issues regarding women in the offices of the Church. It was written some years ago now, and the hermeneutical and exegetical arguments have advanced since then, but it remains a quality introduction to the subject, and demonstrates that the hierarchical-complimentarian claims are at a distinct disadvantage, theologically speaking.
Jan 10, Connor Searle rated it it was amazing. A helpful, well-researched book that opens up the ancient world to modern readers in an accessible way. Laypeople, pastors, and seminarians alike will find many of their assumptions about the role of women in the church challenged even as the enduring authority of Scripture is upheld. Thoughtful Christians on both sides of the issue would do well to read this book. Nov 24, Joshua Chubb rated it really liked it. A comprehensive look with adequate space to the other side given, Biblically argued from both the didactic and descriptive passages of the Bible, with a challenge to the complementarian that views leadership in the Church primarily a position of power as opposed to service.
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This is a great book into understanding what the Bible says about women and their roles in the Church!!! Jan 17, Liz rated it really liked it. The writing is a little dry and academic, however the content of the book is great. The author covers almost every angle. Lots of helpful information. Jan 26, Nicholas Quient rated it liked it Shelves: hermeneutics , theology , women-in-ministry , new-testament. An excellent introduction, but pales in comparison to Philip Payne's work.
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Great book. A great resource! There are no discussion topics on this book yet. About Stanley J.
Stanley J. His dad was a Baptist pastor for 30 years before he passed away in After high school Stan began his undergraduate studies in with the idea that he would become a nuclear physicist. But God had other plans for him, and in , while driving home to Colorado after a visit with his parents in Oklahoma, he received a definite call into full time Christian ministry. In Stan traveled in an evangelistic youth team where he met Edna Sturhahn from Vancouver, BC , who then became his wife in December, Both Stan and Edna completed their undergraduate degrees at the University of Colorado and Stan went on to receive his M.
Div from Denver Seminary in , the same year in which he was ordained into the gospel ministry. During the years of study in Colorado he served as a youth pastor and an assistant pastor. Their son, Joel was born in Munich in Stan has authored or co-authored twenty-five books, served as editor or co-editor for two Festschriften, contributed articles to more than two dozen other volumes, and has seen to print more than a hundred essays and an additional eighty book reviews.
He had plans to write many more books. Two more of his books will appear in print within the next year.
In addition to writing and lecturing all around the world, Stan loved preaching. He served as interim pastor of several congregations and as guest preacher in many churches. He loved the Church, both locally and worldwide.
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